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The Co-host, "John" Makes Our Show Out Of The Ordinary
In addition to Joe and Gerry, there is "John."  He is an entity who last lived 2000 years ago and yet, every week through the channeling of Gerry, John speaks from his unique and loving perspective outside physical reality.
We do not need to seek forgiveness, for we are not condemned; we do not need to be saved, for we can never be lost; 
we do not need to seek eternal life, for that is what we are.
          Mt. Shasta